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kv0925 ([personal profile] kv0925) wrote2008-09-12 08:58 am

Blah blah blah.

Okay, I honestly wasn't going to post anything political today, but then I saw this article about Sarah Palin's interview on ABC last night, and this bit in particular:

Interestingly, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis earlier told radio host Hugh Hewitt that the media's coverage of Palin amounts to an "attack on Christianity" itself.

Um, whut? Is this serious? Criticizing McCain's VP choice because it was clearly a political selection rather than a logical one; because she has the wrong ethos and temperament to be mayor of a town of 5,000, let alone Vice President (or, all-too-conceivably, President) of the nation; because she doesn't just disrespect the separation of Church and State, she'd like to trample it into the ground.. calling her out on any of that means one is either sexist or attacking Christianity?

The point Davis was really trying to make is that religion, as a personal thing, should not be made an issue when looking at the candidates, but the media is making it one and is doing so in a way that often derides the faith of some of these people. That's fair enough in theory. But you know what? It isn't the media's fault if the candidates themselves are the ones bringing their religion into the public arena, like in the furor over abortion, like in the desire to legislate abstinence-only sex education, like in the move to mandate the teaching of creationism and other pseudo-science in public schools, like when a candidate for national office speaks before an audience and says that our soldiers are in Iraq "on a task from God."

Don't worry, one of these days I'll get the memo and stop longing for things to Just Make Sense.

[identity profile] cinnamonbite.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
cp: "McCain did NOT pick her because she was right for the job, he picked her to help him win the election..."

linkeinabook: "People keep saying what a horrible choice McCain made and yet it has given him a great jump in the polls."

Um...isn't that what cp said?


The very fact that she's turning this into a sexist issue makes her a bad person. Just on that 1 fact alone. She's playing the sex card with one hand and the martyr card with the other. Christians LOVE to play the martyr card and try to twist anything and everything into an attack on their religion. Shame on her. As a female, I am HIGHLY offended that she is shaming my sex and setting a very poor example. Lately I'm hearing nonsense from women all over attempting to make nonsense into a sexist issue. That whole, "Shrill is sexist," bullshit for one. Shrill is a word that describes a sound. My husband is shrill when he yells, but he has a penis. The neighbor's kid, who also has a penis, and has the most annoyingly shrill screams when he's in the pool.
Here's another example, "It is funny how Washington inexperience is only an advantage when you have the privilege of a Y chromosome..." excuse me? Very very few people against Palin are concerned about what's between her legs. Most of us are concerned about what's between her ears.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Bzzzzzzzzzt, wrong, but thanks for playing.

Has Palin been in "executive" positions longer than Obama? Yes, she has, but when you consider that you're talking about a teensy tiny town (about 5,000 citizens when she was in office) and the 47th state in the Union in terms of population.. well, it really doesn't say much, especially when you consider that she needed a lot of help just to run the town of Wasilla (see the Anne Kilkenny letter here (http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/sarahpalin.asp)). Besides, it all depends on how you spin it, doesn't it? When Obama first stepped forward as a potential candidate, his "inexperience" was regarded as a good thing, since his platform was one of bringing a new point of view to Washington. Palin wants to bring her inexperience along with the same old Republican nonsense and conservative Christian agenda that has no place in government. If she were a man I'd be saying the exact same thing, though it also wouldn't be such a hot issue because no man would have given McCain the boost she has. I think there's more reverse sexism at play here than misogyny, and THAT is where the martyr card comes in, though I think it's her defenders playing it rather than Palin herself.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There may well be sexism in the media portrayals of Palin, and even in many voters' opinions of her, for both better and worse. But I assure you my own condemnation of her regards her gender as irrelevant, except for the fact that it's affecting how she's perceived among her own gender. I don't like her because her stances on most issues is anathema to me, as are her practices while in office thus far. As I said, I have no reason whatsoever to suspect that she'll be a better Vice President or President than she has proven to be as a mayor or governor (the extent of her office's powers, by the way, has little to do with how poorly she has executed that office), and I believe her selection was purely political rather than justified by her experience or abilities.

[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
btw, the slant on that blog is of head-spinning magnitude. You may want to think twice about citing it as a legitimate source for future argument.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.. I do judge for myself, and I personally find her conclusions unfounded.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
More or less, yes. People are people, and some are more worthwhile than others regardless of their gender, color, or creed. I was, after all, born and raised in Florida, where the morons run thick in every color of the rainbow. :)
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
So.. you don't think anyone is a moron? Or you just think that lots of people are morons, but they're all God's morons?
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, see, there again we're running into trouble because I'm using the actual dictionary definition of the word.

1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But both are relevant.

You meant Forrest, for example.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, I also really enjoyed when you typo'ed "right" where you meant "write" in a recent post. :)
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I got bored with our debate so I had to start attacking your linguistic skills. I do apologize.
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[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah, though I don't remember seeing any of those on you...

[identity profile] cinnamonbite.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU owe me a new keyboard!
BAH HAHAhahahahahaha

[identity profile] cp.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I liked that one, if I do say so myself. ;) likeinabook is an old acquaintance of mine, we've been going back and forth on religious and political issues for years. Not too often these days, though--we realized it was unhealthy, so we scaled back our debates to maybe once a year or so. :)